Elections issues at home
Do license plate fees need a raise?By RON SELAK JR. Tribune Chronicle
WARREN - Trumbull County voters on Tuesday will decide if road and bridge improvements around the county are worth paying up to $10 more in license registration fees.
Highway Engineer David DeChristofaro said the local money - about $1.2 million - can be leveraged against state and federal money to make about $8 million a year for improvements.
''Trumbull County needs local matching funds in order to get federal and state grants for roads and bridges,'' DeChristofaro said. ''Without the local matching funds, we cannot get these grants, we can't keep up repairing our roads and bridges.''
Ken MacPherson of the Trumbull County Campaign for Liberty said residents pay enough taxes associated with their vehicles, from the gasoline tax to recently increased fees by Ohio for vision screenings, temporary tags and other registration fees.
''What we have is a system of evil begetting evil,'' MacPherson said. ''Billions in taxes paid, now yet another tax to go beg for the money that we've already paid.''
Two separate $5 increases will be on the general election ballot.
DeChristofaro said residents in Niles, Warren and Newton Falls wouldn't pay extra.
But this is where it might get confusing, DeChristofaro said.
Residents of Cortland, Girard, McDonald and West Farmington would pay an extra $5 only if the second measure passes. If the first measure passes, they wouldn't be required to pay because they already pay that fee.
In the remaining communities, there are none with the type of fee being proposed by DeChristofaro. They do, however, have a $5 fee they are allowed to impose just for their jurisdiction. Those communities are Champion, Hubbard, Liberty, Newton and Weathersfield townships.
Ohio law allows for a maximum of four $5 fees to be placed on license plates. Three are reserved for counties, and one is reserved for municipalities or townships.
Trumbull County ranks 10th among Ohio's 88 counties for deficient bridge decks, and according to the federal highway rating system, 27 percent of bridges need to be replaced compared to 11 percent of Ohio's remaining 87 counties, DeChristofaro said.
Additionally, Trumbull isn't among 14 northeast Ohio counties with similar fees, and among the 12 largest counties by population in Ohio, all but Trumbull have the fee, DeChristofaro said.
''It's been nice that we haven't had this tax for 42 years, like some have had, but now we're paying the price,'' DeChristofaro said.
MacPherson said buying back tax dollars with local matches is a broken system that would be continued if this tax is approved.
''I'm not against the tax really. The system is broken, and by participating in it, we're perpetuating a broken system,'' MacPherson said. ''We shouldn't have to overly tax ourselves so we can get money we've already paid tax on.''
MacPherson said about 30 people will be at the polls across Trumbull County with signs and literature on the plate fee and on statewide Issues 1, 2 and 3, which they will be encouraging voters to vote down.
DeChristofaro said he didn't create the system, but is trying to work within it.
''Right now, if you want to get that money back for projects, you have to put up 20 percent to get that 80 percent back,'' he said. ''We're not getting our money back right now. Trumbull County is a donor county; we don't get the money back that we put in.
''This is another way of getting our tax dollars back in Trumbull County,'' DeChristofaro said.
DeChristofaro has acknowledged that road repairs still would be done without the additional money. About $500,000 a year is set aside to leverage against state and federal grants, which account for most of the project funding, he said. Combined, about $2 million a year is available, he said.
At that pace, he said, it would take more than 200 years to rebuild the county's 381 bridges and 90 years to repair the road system.
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warrenite4now
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11-02-09 8:11 PM
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Tomorrow is election day and I will show my disdain for the current politicians. I already pay the extra fee on my license plate, I shouldnt have to pay it again. How about putting more patrols on these roads. We all know that the average ticket nets well over $100. So why arent the politicians putting more patrols on the streets? Probably because they arent safe to be on! Not by driving or walking. Good job! Politicians asking for re-election, I hope your current term is your last!
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Justaname
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11-02-09 7:44 PM
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watched a road being paved in a township that did NOT need paving...However IF they would have moved over just one road, they could of really helped that road out...don't get it..they fix road that don't need and don't fix the ones that do...Voting No...I pay enuff already.
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SURV69
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11-02-09 8:29 AM
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Keep this in mind . . . This is a "permissive" tax. Few communities have actually "voted" on this tax. This is a tax which can be simply "imposed" by virtue of need. This "permission" to impose this tax came about because of need regarding the ever increasingly deteriating infrastructure. It's obvious that the commissioners don't want to impose this, especially in this economy. SO regardless of your stand on this, at the least, feel "priviledged" that you've been given a chance to vote on it.
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NachoCheese
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11-01-09 11:13 PM
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Let's see ... a tax to pay for getting some of our tax dollars back into the community? Paying to get our money back? But only SOME have to pay for it (punishment for the communities that have managed their budgets without adding this additional tax already - now you get to pay it for the benefit of OTHER communities ... unless you live in Warren or Niles or ... WTF?) Seems like a BAD DEAL any way you slice it. Some things never change.
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warrenite4now
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11-01-09 2:56 PM
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As another, "think of yourself" person from Warren, I am not in favor of any more fees. The roads in my neighborhood are still ignored. Havent been paved in over 10 years. A few patch jobs and occassional snow plowing to hush us when we complain arent enough. When the county fixed North Road, they diverted alot of their heavy equipment onto Harvard Drive (city road). The pothole riddled, gatored surfaces with numerous bumps from patch material are ridiculus. If the county doesnt take care of issues they helped create, why trust them to more fees. Irresponsible quality just to finish ahead of schedule during better times is no excuse for more money from us during leaner periods. Earn the money just like the rest of us. Warren, you need to earn it too. Find solutions instead of asking for hand outs.
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TheFalls
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11-01-09 2:48 PM
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Vote Yes...its cheaper then fixing your car
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SURV69
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11-01-09 12:02 PM
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Well, I've always approved of the "head in the sand" answer to my worst of problems. Who knows, maybe that concept could work here too. If we just ignore the problem and more importantly ignore the solution, maybe the problem will go away. BTW the county does have a specific "plan" and there are projects at the ready when/if the funds become available. Olive street, for example has been planned for quite some time now. Without matching funds the projects will get done, but most likely on a very drawn-out timetable . . . as they can be paid for. Maybe the county can borrow the 20% funding from the local bank, make certain that the project is over-bid by 20%, skim that 20% back off and put it back in the bank? Face the fact that we need the money if we hope to get THE MONEY(from the federalies) to get past this patch-fix state of affairs we've been in for years and years. It's not just here. Infrastructure all over America is now reaching limits of useful li
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Billyboy
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11-01-09 11:44 AM
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Put toll booths up on the bad bridges.
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ReasonableVoice
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11-01-09 11:31 AM
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What we have here is a false dichotomy. It's being presented to us that we need to raise the license plate fee by $5 or $10 or we cannot fix the bridges. There are other options. For instance, it's possible to raise taxes only on those who can afford the tax increase (progressive tax) rather than the proposed regressive tax on license plate fees that everyone who owns a car must deal with. A 'no' vote on this will pave the way for progressive taxes on those who can afford to pay more in taxes, like those making more than $200,000 per year. Once the wealthy start to pay their proportionate share, we'll be able to fix the bridges.
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SURV69
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11-01-09 10:43 AM
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something is most definately wrong when the bulk of our taxes go to the central government and the central government uses that money to make us ever so grateful at getting some of it back. How on earth did we get into this state of mind where the one segment of government which was supposed to have the least day-to-day effect on our lives has, in fact, become the one segment of government that has almost complete control on our lives. AND to think they use our own money to do this is unreal. AT the very least, worthwhile or needed projects should be funded completely by the FEDERAL government with the money they've already colected from us. REGARDLESS, don't blame DeChristofaro for the rediculous system he has to work with in order to get some of our money back.
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wonderboy
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11-01-09 10:30 AM
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Why don't we have a system to keep up on bridge and road repair?we wait until they are in such bad shape or beyond repair and then eiter close the bridges and just skim coat the roads to make them look good for a couple of years. my pockets are empty for buying food for the table and they want me to borrow money so that I can pay more taxes. SOMETHING IS WRONG.0.
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SURV69
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11-01-09 9:24 AM
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Thank God that most deteriation of bridges take place underneath the pavement, out of site and out of mind to the many drivers that cross them. This way everyone can believe . . . if they want, that nothing's wrong with the bridges. This way, when a bridge is closed, we can say it was completely politically motivated. Granted we've already paid a substantial tax(in federal taxes), but if there's no process for the FEDERALS to give us "our" money back, then we have to play by their rules or that money will go somewhere else while our county scrambles for the money to do patch-repairs.
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DrSpankit
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11-01-09 8:44 AM
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200 years to build 381 bridges.....thats really is scaring us David...
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TheCortlandguy
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11-01-09 8:29 AM
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Franky we don't need to worry about Warren's spiteful votes. All 6 of them that turn out won't change the balance of this sweet defeat to DeChristoTaxo and his stupid idea. "Hey everybody...America is on it's last legs, Trumbull county has no employment left, so let's put a tax on the ballot!" Once again I point out that DeChristoTaxo wasn't bringing this up while begging for votes. LIAR! oops... I mean. Politician!
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Attric
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11-01-09 8:10 AM
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DeChristofaros' plan was to let the roads get really bad by doing nothing to them, then the voters would feel obligated to vote for the tax so the county highway dept. would have the funds to repair them. Funny, where did the money come from to fix the roads before he was elected last year? Our roads have always been in pretty good shape, with upgrades taking place on a regular basis until now. Maybe he wants to use the tax money to pay for the signs at the DeChristofaro County Fairgrounds!
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Attric
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11-01-09 8:05 AM
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DeChristofaro is strictly a politician. The roads in our county are in the shape they are in because his #1 agenda since he took office was to raise our license fees. A good friend of mine who heads the scheduling, etc. of the day to day operations for the highway department was telling me in April this year there was no plans for road work at that time. He said they ALWAYS have their itinerary by then, but his "boss" wasn't interested in hearing any suggestions about road work. Just taxes.
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franky
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11-01-09 7:22 AM
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Early Riser, Think only about yourself and don't drive on any other roads. Next time Warren needs bailed out by the rest of the county, call on someone else!
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baldeagle
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11-01-09 6:28 AM
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There has to be a loophole so the money can be take from us and if it does pass will the steel be made in America for the repair work. Vote no and when it is time to vote for the people in office vote them out too. Bye Tim boy.
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OldManGrump2
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11-01-09 6:09 AM
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Voting NO on this license fee [tax] is the right way to vote. Why give the county political-crooks more money to waste on their friends and family in a time when the economy is so bad it's hard to pay one's bills? NO on all tax issues is the best message we can send in this election. Make the Democrooks stop and think about what they are doing with tax and spend.
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EarlyRiser
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11-01-09 4:54 AM
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Bob, Warren has already put an increase on ours, so voting yes or no wont affect Warren residents taxes.
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MD1533USMC
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11-01-09 4:03 AM
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We're voting "NO!", Bob!
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XANADU440
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11-01-09 1:46 AM
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NO! It costs too much for license registration fees already
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