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More left jobless

Trumbull County’s rate ninth-highest in state of Ohio

By RAYMOND L. SMITH Tribune Chronicle
POSTED: June 24, 2009

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Unemployment in Trumbull County remained at 14.3 percent in May, making it the ninth-highest rate in the state.

Unemployment has been as high as 14.8 in January, as low as 14.2 percent in March, and was 14.3 percent in April. The January rate was the highest the county had experienced since August 1983.

Joblessness has been felt most severely in Warren, which in May had an unemployment rate of 15.3 percent. Even that figure was not the worst this year for the city. In January, Warren's unemployment figure showed 15.6 percent of all working-age residents looking for work.

Cortland resident Kevin Vadas, 28, recently resumed an on-and-off job search that he has been experiencing over the last decade. Vadas has had nearly a half dozen jobs during that time, primarily working in factory and truck driving positions.

''I'm looking for something more stable and will pay more,'' Vadas said Tuesday, while being taught how to use job search software at the Trumbull County One Stop Center in Warren.

Over the years he has worked with Albert Guarnieri & Co., at Western Reserve Foods, KraftMaid, rented boats at Pymatuning Lake, at Colonial Ice Co., as well as with other companies.

''In all the times I was laid off from these jobs, I was always looking for work,'' he said. ''It is difficult to find work.''

Warren Mayor Michael J. O'Brien said the high unemployment number has hurt his administration's ability to provide even the most basic services. O'Brien expects the declining number of manufacturing jobs in and around the city to cost in approximately $2 million in 2009 compared the the same period in 2008.

It is estimated the city will go from tax revenues from $16 million to $14 million in 2009. That does not include money the city will not earned because of reduced use by water and sewer by companies like Servastal Steel.

''The loss of tax revenues is the reason we are in talks with employee unions about changes in their pay and benefit packages,'' O'Brien said.

The county has not felt immediate impact of the month to month changing unemployment figures, but it is expecting to feel it over time in property tax and sales tax collections.

Patrick DeToro, a supervisor at Trumbull County One Stop, says there has been more people coming into the One Stop for assistance.

''We are getting more of an influx of people who are highly skilled,'' DeToro said. ''People who had been engineers at Delphi. Even the highly skilled are not becoming displaced.''

The One Stop is there to help people to find jobs, and, if necessary, find ways to upgrade the skills they need to find new employment.

''Even some of the highly educated job applicants may need additional job training,'' he said. ''They may have to drive a little further to obtain jobs.''

Those looking for job training can seek employment at propriety schools and public universities.

Both Warren and Trumbull county have lower unemployment rates than Youngstown, 13.7 percent, and Mahoning county, 12.2 percent.

Trumbull did not have the highest unemployment rate in the state in May. With an umemployment rate of 17.1 percent, Williams county, which is the furthest northwest county in Ohio, had the highest. Defiance, Van Wert, Crawford, Huron , Highland, Pike and Morgan counties also had higher countywide unemployment rates.

With a 6.7 percent rate, Delaware county, in Central Ohio, had the lowest.

''I really feel that unless we get manufacturing back into the area there is going to be continued underemployment,'' DeToro said.

With the new state Web site, Ohiomeansjobs.com, people looking jobs can see what is available throughout the state.

''Because it is new, the posting are current,'' DeToro said. ''They don't last that long.''

rsmith@tribtoday.com

 
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UneducatedDrone
06-24-09 9:48 PM
Fairfax County is one of the richest/most expensive communities in the country. I know I can't afford to live there, lol. Is Alexandria in Fairfax Co.?

Also, most of the jobs that scape is talking about generally require at least some degree of higher education. I don't know the exact numbers, but I'm sure you're close scape, lol.

(-:

Gscape
06-24-09 5:51 PM
Turki: Your statements are accurate. 100 people out of a couple of million decided to move and keep their GM jobs. What about the others who decided to stay? Raytheon Corporation just leased space 2 miles down the road from me for 3,000 workers. These are high paying skilled positions working with technology. By the way, Rush is not my neighbor. Fairfax County which borders D.C.-look it up. Their school budget is 1.6 billion dollars a year. This is not typo. Turki: I'm only stating that other opportunities exist outside Warren, Ohio. There are several areas in the country that are prospering. Spread your wings and do some internet searching on these areas.

turi57
06-24-09 5:39 PM
GSCAPE; We had over 100 people move to this area with their $55,000 a year GM job last year from the Baltimore/Washington area...you must be living in your little world with Rush Limbaugh as your neighbor!

Gscape
06-24-09 5:21 PM
I posted this earlier: I live in a suburb of Washington DC where the schools are awesome and the unemployment rate is 4.2 percent. You read that correctly...4.2 percent. We have plenty of well paying jobs and the median income is $105,000. That is no joke. Please consider moving and providing a better quality of life for your family-you can always visit them.

turi57
06-24-09 5:18 PM
Nosympathy and OldManGrump...together... and what is that we get?

MOBBOSS!

Mobboss
06-24-09 4:55 PM
Where can I get an application for Halsey Taylor ? Oh, you greedy punks got them to move too...start lifting weghts to flip burgers if YOU want to eat ! PS - 2 cents- those people at Wal-Mart are the ones working at the #2 employer in the valley - SOCIAL SECURITY ! Joe, go cash your food stamps and unemployment check from the stimulus, then complain about it

turi57
06-24-09 4:50 PM
Nosympathy...by any chance...are you related to OldManGrump? you two are the ingredients of a couple!!!

Thinker
06-24-09 3:43 PM
Hey Joe, if you think Walmart is a great place to work, rent the dvd "The High Cost of Low Price."

Nosympathy
06-24-09 12:25 PM
Don't you people get it? Warren/Youngstown is on a death spiral to becoming ghost towns. Don't think it could happen? Look at west when the local economy dried up. Or do you think because of the past, it can't happen to the area? LOL! No one in their right mind would risk investing a business in the area. First off, there are hundreds, yes hundreds of places all over this country where potential businesses can get free land, tax abatements for 10 years, and no fear that a union will come in and destroy the company. Does Warren/Youngstown have amy of those guarantees? No, not one. Get a clue folks. The fat lady has sung and the only thing you can do about it is get trained in healthcare, computers or other growing fields and move to another state as soon as you can. Nobody owes you a*******thing, and that's exactly what you are going to get. Nothing! Get off you butt, and do something with your life!

turi57
06-24-09 11:52 AM
IF ANY OF YOU WONDER HOW WE GOT IN THIS MESS? WONDER NO MORE...GET A MIRROR AND TAKE A GOOD LOOK @ YOUR SELF!!!

turi57
06-24-09 11:50 AM
pahootaman...you're right...for years those well payed union jobs pumping money in our local economy and in the coffers of our local governments...that's what got us in this mess.

As for jobs in medicine? we could be learning from Youngstown's booming drug industry...a drug dealer in every corner!!!

turi57
06-24-09 11:40 AM
OldManGrup? forget the laxatives...you need an enema!

djg44484
06-24-09 11:10 AM
"Unemployment in Trumbull County remained at 14.3 percent in May, making it the ninth-highest rate in the state."

"Joblessness has been felt most severely in Warren, which in May had an unemployment rate of 15.3 percent."

Then.....

"Both Warren and Trumbull county have lower unemployment rates than Youngstown, 13.7 percent, and Mahoning county, 12.2 percent."

I do believe there needs to be some sort of correction here.

CompMan
06-24-09 10:02 AM
For reference. "To calculate the unemployment rate for a particular area or region, you will need to know the number of unemployed workers and the total number of people in the labor force. Data is available from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Labor Force refers to the number of people of working age and below retirement age who are actively participating in the work force or are actively seeking employment. Note that the total population of the area or region is irrelevant when calculating the unemployment rate. For example: A population of 15,000 people. Of the total population, 12,000 people are in the labor force and 11,500 people are employed. What is the unemployment rate? First, find the number of unemployed by subtracting the number of employed (11,500) from the labor force (12,000). So, 12,000-11,500=500. Therefore, 500 people are unemployed. Now, to find the unemployment rate, plug the numbers into the formula: Unemployment Rate = (500/12,000)*100 = 4.2 percent."S

jmill46
06-24-09 9:35 AM
Do you think the City and County government officials are reading this, or will they just keep trying to raise taxes, and charge more for services. It's time for OB to start playing the Mega Millions, maybe he'll get some money coming into the City.

pahootaman
06-24-09 9:16 AM
I don't think OMG is totally off base. For decades union employees in the valley acted with an air of entitlement; receiving $$$ bonues every year (even on down years), discounts at local store, etc. For those of us without connections or a relative at GM, we just kind of had to watch from afar. I'm sure I'm not the only one around town that thought some of you were a little smug about it.

Manufacturing is not coming back. Time to look into medicine, IT, green jobs. Get your Ryan on the phone and get him a wind turbine plant in Y-Town. You have the infrastructure, just think outside the box a little bit and put it to new use. Where's that American ingenuity? I'm suprised Ryan wasn't tarred and featherd on W Market street when he diverted stimulus funds to pet projects, nothing of which would help the Valley beyond the immediate.

As for Kevin Vadas in the article, he's got the right idea; Train in a different field to make yourself more attractable to employers.

speedy50
06-24-09 9:00 AM
Want more employers in the valley? We need to create a more business-friendly attitude. Ohio must lower business taxes and regulations. Local communities need to offer tax abatements. People need to welcome new business into their neighborhood, not fight development. (Union) organizers need to stay away and stay quiet unless the employees decide they want to be represented. We are competing with areas across the country. We are halfway between Chicago/New York, at the crossroads of multiple interstate highways, just 50 miles from the Ohio River. Land is cheap. Water is plentiful.

EarlyRiser
06-24-09 8:20 AM
OMG, Do you have any friends at all? I feel sorry for people like you, who are so miserable you want to make every one else that way, leave the usw out of your mix, we have taken alot of cuts. I have 10 years in and only make 18.00 an hour. I work in an extremely hot (120+ degree), humid, dirty, and greasy enviroment. I have seen alot of people get hired who quit after a couple of days who couldn't handle it. Get a life.

my2cents
06-24-09 8:06 AM
The only thing you read in the Trib is gloom and doom. If the economy is so bad, why is it that every time I go to Wal Mart the parking lot is packed. And Sam's as well. There is always lots of traffic on Y-Town Rd., Elm Rd., East Market! Where are they going with the gas prices going up? Not work, not shopping, not out to eat, then where? No need to answer I already know the answer. It doesn't seem to me that the economy is THAT bad right now. Stay strong AMERICA.

Trancemage
06-24-09 7:37 AM
'I really feel that unless we get manufacturing back into the area there is going to be continued underemployment,' DeToro said. duh. and unfortunately this does not seem likely to happen. Companies are folding left and right, few are expanding but no where near the numbers to offset the losses. Thank you corporate America, you have outsourced our jobs chasing the cheapest labor to save a penny cutting those who bought your products. Now that there is no one left to buy your products your companies are in turmoil and begging for help from those who you cut off at the knees. Are there any companies left that value their employees for more than being a number and are willing to pay them what they are worth? Those are what we need in this area, those types of companies don’t seem to exist anymore though, at least not in the size we need them.

moonie
06-24-09 7:03 AM
And Kraftmaid is getting ready to lay off several hundred more on July 24 - MANY of those people live in Warren.

Unemployment in Trumbull County will probably peak at around 25% or higher.

Thinker
06-24-09 6:55 AM
Beth..what ARE unions to blame for? Decent living wages? Good health benefits? Ooooh so TERRIBLE, those unions!

Thinker
06-24-09 6:53 AM
OMG, we're not very fond of YOU, either.

BethMacUSA
06-24-09 6:48 AM
The part of this story that is NOT being told, is that like me, there are many who have taken whatever job they can get. I am working in my field, but only Part-time. I agree that the Unions are to PARTIALLY blame, but come on people the darn steel mills closed 30 years and 6 months ago almost to the day!

It is time to stop the BLAME GAME! Take personal responsibilty. Call your Representatives for both Ohio and US Congress. Get involved with the Chamber of Commerce. If they see hundreds of people at their meetings including school boards and City and township meetings, County meetings the list goes on...GO GET INVOLVED, make your voice heard. Here's what you say at those meeting: "Hi My name is (fill in your name here), I am a Union Member, I paid my dues in good faith. My Family did with out many things so I could belong to the Union - now it's YOUR turn to give back to me! I want my Valley back!"

My words don't have the same impact!

OldManGrump2
06-24-09 6:00 AM
It's a shame so many have depended on their friends and family to get them union jobs with the UAW, USW, and IUE-CWA. Now those manufacturing jobs no longer exist and the highway to highly paid union jobs is gone leaving the entire Mahoning Valley with a union mentality that means no new jobs are coming to the valley because business hate the valley for their unions.

TOO BAD - SO SAD!!!

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