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Officials must follow the same rules

September 15, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: Recently our elected representative to Ohio State Legislature was found to be harboring other persons in his single family dwelling located in the northeast portion of Warren, contrary......

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 10:58 AM

you know the saddest in all this because of housing and redevelopment is all these officials r suppose to be trained on these laws esp bldg offc. .. so why are so many sitting quietly while the ones who have no boundaries running around like loose cannons .. trespassing like warrendayatatime said and brown admitted in his comment at a council meeting .. since when is alright to trespass without a search warrant .. two city officials just walking up into someones house uninvited ,no search warrant , no call to owner or renter .. but they all know what going on ? what are they psychic ? and yet they have questions well y didnt they ask at hearing ? but they have all answers ? and now no court wants it ? wonder y ?!! hope it does go federal to put stop to nonsense!

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 10:21 AM

ps nativio i have been sober since 2008 ..so i just plain crazy and thank god for that!!!

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 10:16 AM

there is a difference in all three of these with many more brown could come up with ... bottom line is this is not about politics .. its about preconceived ideas about people and what they are doing and not doing .. why is neighborhood watchmen gonna videotape a private home where sober people live ? strange hmmm... trust issues .. maybe they should be watching the local bars where shootings are happenings ,, overcrowding ,, or drunk drivers .. instead they rather violate privacy bcuz of nimbyism cuz they live around corner ? idk just sounds like certain people think they are better than rest of the world :)

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 10:07 AM

example brown has been calling this halfway house since he went to council , then a sober house ,, yet letson called it a house where recovering alcoholics live.. so who trying to force a square peg in a round hole

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 10:04 AM

i am talking warren in survival mode .. officials having a development plan that has worked in other area of ohio ... i am talking about nonsense of certain people trying to heroes which means others have to be villians... its just plain ignorance lack of communication and fear ..i do NOT believe anyone is trying to harm another maliciously .. although alot of overreacting going on ... the ideals of the 50's do not fit our society today ..all these arguments, law suits come out of peoples unwillingness to trust others , to try to understand ..

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 9:53 AM

if people have issue with the laws .. they should write there legislators .. not attack people and officials by making up their own laws and sayin its law ... and by the way I AM FROM THE SOUTH .. AND some of yous r just plain rude !

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 9:49 AM

and liberal there is actually a 3rd independents , who say the other two are nuts lol

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grammy303

Sep-22-13 9:47 AM

not sure what hoodrat is ,sounds like another derogatory statement from the committee of nimbyism ... that better ?

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oldmangrumpliveson

Sep-21-13 3:32 PM

Grammy303, type in english please. I am not capable of interpreting hoodrat. Thanks!

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nativio289

Sep-21-13 9:35 AM

Your grammar and writing skills are diminishing, are you back to drinking yourself? Or are you purposely writing beneath your level as a smokescreen?

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 3:00 AM

improvement..and most of all we are faced with what we fear most.. i also think everyone as far as the public officials have done their best in serving .. warren is still one of best places to live .. yet throwing people away or bullying them out is not a solution ..there r long term consequences to this rule instead of service. change comes hard with critcism.i would like to believe everyone including nativio is doing their best. does that make me soft? no!will this recovery house make it ? idk !if not given a chance how many lives is that worth ?is one your kids worthy of that sacrifice? not mine if they need in future. so if u can say ya r more power to u and good luck with that warren being in top 10 highest in op iate abuse in ohio and 1in10 alcoholic and then have street stuff..

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 2:42 AM

to tell the truth i think everyone involved knows the score that y u only one asking questions .. just like in another public situation we know .. and who the voice in that one ? u know , i know everyone knows,, so y ask questions u know the answers to unless u want to control discriminate and bully and really dont want the common folk to know cuz innately they dont know their rts or r too afraid to stand up or it looks bad for those serving,,truth is none of these look at most recent lawsuits going on surrounding the bars and their liquor licenses taken ... r sunshine laws being violated there ? if so maybe they r in this instance .. who serving whom ? my hopes r that the redevelopment plan works in warren like it has in other places in ohio!! the end result is not as important as the journey to get there.with these same tactics as in past will only undermine the goals set esp financially.. i am firm believer that people are innately intelligent. communication or expression is need o

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:58 AM

here a hint american planning association .. they r called community residence ... planners are associated with .. one site with all ya answers that some already have..

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:41 AM

u definitely need assessed dude .. do u even like ya self ? seriously ...

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:28 AM

obviously STILL have not looked up ANY federal fair housing laws ada laws state fair housing law nor even the city ordinances LOL ..so ur just trying to b a Bully .. u know what that is rt? or u want someone to look that up for you too ? LOL

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:21 AM

I would Assume u have no experience with recovery process from start of someones active addiction and consequences thru full recovery from the disease since u dont believe it is a disease nor a disablity and cant look that up and think its a matter of will.. yet r demanding answer from people who should answer to u cuz u say so lol talk bout delusional and not even on this blog .. u know what that means rt ? ya know delusional ? maybe u should get assessed dont u think?! hows that for grammar and style :)

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grammy303

Sep-21-13 1:03 AM

like anything else u can assume away and expect all u want ..even stomp feet get high and drunk it free country ...lol u have zero business in someone elses business,,, and now u want someone to look up coherent for ya lol NOT!!

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nativio289

Sep-20-13 4:31 PM

And no, I am very much not "coherent" on this blog. Not at all.

Are you sure you are using that word properly?

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nativio289

Sep-20-13 4:30 PM

These are questions that affect not only the neighbors around there, but the drunks paying to get clean. I'm sure you know, as someone very much connected to this "sober house", that these operators could be doing more harm than good of it is the fly by night operation many suspect it is.

Who are the two fellas running this operation?

What are their qualifications and prior experience that entitles them to run an operation like this in the middle of a neighborhood?

What programs are being run in this business?

What supervision is on site for those who are enrolled in this "sober house"?

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grammy303

Sep-20-13 5:08 AM

What entitles you to ask any questions of anybody ? What office do you hold ? What authority do you have ? Are you even coherent on this blog ? Really can you read or even comprehend or are you just unable to hear anyone but yourself ?its too bad when people have contempt prior to investigation

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nativio289

Sep-19-13 1:14 AM

Who are the two fellas running this operation?

What are their qualifications and prior experience that entitles them to run an operation like this in the middle of a neighborhood?

What programs are being run in this business?

What supervision is on site for those who are enrolled in this "sober house"?

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nativio289

Sep-18-13 11:30 AM

Answer the specific question about this operation and its operators.

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 6:52 PM

And nativio how do you know how much anyone pays for anything ? And yet your questions are not answered ? Sounds like more misinformation from neighbors which u r not .. and if u want to know how alcoholism is a disability since 1954 ama said is a disease ...go look it up b4 opening ya mouth and giving an uneducated opinion .. how do you its a business ? These people have made no public announcement so ur just makin stuff up !

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 5:43 PM

Just maybe if people were more neighborly instead of acting like attack dogs things would b more open ... my parents always said u catch more bees with honey than vinegar ..... when expecting respect and not giving it .. u set ya self up for disappointment ..its makes the neighborhood and city look bad when people are discriminating bcuz of different from personal ideals..its y federal laws got stronger in 2008 ..

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grammy303

Sep-17-13 5:36 PM

Nativio dogs b at your house soon since u went public bout breaking law ..so u need to clean ya stuff up b4 trying to point fingers ...

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