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Verdict shows a country divided

July 28, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: I saw in the news that the so-called Rev. Al Sharpton was calling for riots in 100 cities. This is one of the biggest hypocrites in the U.S....

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featherstone

Aug-06-13 3:05 PM

Multiliemumbler.

:)

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horatio

Aug-03-13 8:43 PM

This paper asked us today…"are you in fear?"Yes, I am in fear. I am in fear of companies like the one that prints this rag called a News Paper! A person that totes the right-wing mantra can spew their hatred using multiple screen names all day long. If people try to have a meaningful conversation, with opposing and diverse views, this rag shuts them down.

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ohcwby

Aug-03-13 6:03 AM

Robinj is right...I don't like either one of them...I just see the unfairness.

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RobinJ

Aug-01-13 4:52 PM

NMC: Thanks! I appreciate your answers and I agree. Yes, intelligent, civil posts are refreshing and seemingly somewhat scarce!

I am surprised, (at myself), as I thought those supporting sharptons rhetoric and outcrys were in agreement with sharpton, and partly why I asked. Mainly, I was looking for more common ground.

Im not surprised with the disagrees on my intentions for asking. Even though I have always been respectful of others, never trying to 'catch' someone, and have always been straight forward. IDC

Why is it your posts keep getting removed?

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heartland

Aug-01-13 2:40 PM

xwarren the double standard is that my remarks were deleted but your racist right-wing ones weren't.

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ohcwby

Aug-01-13 12:18 AM

Like what Jonathon that he smoked pot? oh my. Umm quite normal, even 30-40 yrs ago. And everyone know pot don't make you aggressive, makes you passive. That he's been in fights? Big deal who hasn't? Is there anymore Dumb@$$ teenage things that everyone does that you want to spit hairs over? : )

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ohcwby

Aug-01-13 12:05 AM

Jonathon, there was nothing sugar coated about anything I posted it was pasted from the news...Black kid no record gets shot by older Latino male stalker with a lengthy record for drinking and fighting with police an abusing his GF's.... All white jury except 1 Latina. All out of touch jurors except one "I don't understand chantel". Ummm that's a clue! LOL I understood her and I live on a farm in BFE, but have traveled some. LOL Just like the Amish mullet man he didn't get a trial of his peers, none were Amish! How is that peers? He should get out just on that alone, but that's another story. Anything else jonathon? Here's the link to the "sugar coat" for you Rush Err I mean Jonathon. : )

*******usnews.nbcnews****/_news/2012/03/27/10894561-zimmerman-accused-of-domestic-violence-fighting-with-a-police-officer?lite

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RobinJ

Jul-31-13 10:31 PM

NMC: Im interested in knowing what you think of Sharpton's role. Would you agree he helped magnify the volatility? Was it necessary? What was his gain?

Im NOT asking to argue, nit pick, correct your grammar or spelling, or twist your words. My intentions are for conversation and understanding.

Not a fan of disclaimers either, I just like being straight forward.

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liemonger

Jul-31-13 10:05 PM

"Very interesting Featherstone and demonstrative of a good deal of thought. "

LOL.

Funniest post EVER.

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RobinJ

Jul-31-13 9:51 PM

NMC: I understand what you mean about the political correctness effecting definitions. Im NOT a fan of being politically correct!

I believe if a person is sincere, honest, respectful, polite, kind and treats others the way they expect treated/spoken to, that should suffice.

I appreciate your post of Jul-30 4:26pm ... very well said and equally true!

I have to agree with you about evidence also. I also must wonder who all had a stake in they way this case was presented so inaccurately from the start.

There was no good reason for the media to be so deceptive and I want to know why. Also want to know why they portrayed BOTH Martin and zimmerman incorrectly.

Just to be clear, I believe Martins parents did what every parent would do in the same situation. There was no need for sharpton, black panthers, etc to drum up the volatility. What was their motive? How about benefit? Other than division, self serving, self promoting publicity, or book sales. Wny?

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ChadDouglas

Jul-31-13 9:43 PM

There were no lessons learned or looking in the mirror within the Black Community on this issue. This is going to happen again somewhere. Bill Cosby's recent remarks on this case have gone overlooked, but are more true than Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Emotions and anger mean nothing while no one addresses the problems. Black on Black crime is the number one enemy of the Black Community. There is no hand out on this one, no one to blame but looking into the mirror for the solution. Every other ethnicity does not riot, tear up their community to show anger, yet have had rough pasts. This is another case of missing the point to really turn things around once and for all, to end gangs, glorifying thug hood,and the other stereotypes. Ministers should have taken the reigns on this. Where is all this protesting when Air Jordans come out each year and someone is killed over shoes by someone of the same race? People have become desensitized to constant black on black killings sad

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RobinJ

Jul-31-13 3:27 PM

Just for clarification, before anyone chides in to call me racist, WRONG! I firmly believe the only place on earth race/skin color/ethnicity is relevant is 1-DNA and 2-Forensics! Somewhat for family reunions too, for cultural reasons!

Willful, gross misrepresentation of the facts, initially, further makes the Martin/Zimmerman case extremely more divisive and unnecessarily volatile!

Falsely, the media angelically and youthfully portrayed Martin and demonized Zimmerman. Neither was perfect & neither an evil demon or convicted criminal.

Had the media and race baiters like sharpton, jjackson, rush, waters and co, let the facts come out and be tried in a court of law rather than public opinion, the outcome may have been different.

After Casey Anthony trial the jurors were threatened and stalked. These jurors knew that, perhaps if race politics just allowed the case be tried in court, the jurors would have had a different outcome.

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RobinJ

Jul-31-13 3:08 PM

"That is why Zimmerman is so divisive, he "represents" white killing black which gives anti-black citizens a cause to support"

Insomuch as Zimmerman gives anti-whites & white guilters someone to hate also.

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Marmel

Jul-31-13 2:52 PM

I understand your meaning by “represents” But the train of thought that I thought was represented in your last 3 posts lead me to believe you assumed the verdict had to do with race. If not than I stand corrected, if my assumptions were correct than I stand by my statement.

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RobinJ

Jul-31-13 2:11 PM

Interesting dialogue! Now I am fully aware this will garner plenty of disagrees and quite possibly that "crying towel" (LoL!) but neither Jews nor Arabs are a race.

Jewish people are defined by culture, religion and linguistically. Same being true for Arabs; but denoted by a culture and Muslim faith and speaks Arabic. As for a previous post suggesting that Jesus was an Arab, well thats a debatable issue as well, I will leave that to the Biblical scholars, of which I lay no claim.

Hispanic/Latino is considered a race by the US Census Bureau whereas according to the Board of Prisons Latino/Hispanic is considered an ethnicity.

IF I were detained in US prison my only race choices are White, Black, Native American, Asian, whilest I might choose Hispanic as the only ethnicity choice. Not sensible!

Seems to me all this talk of differences, failed attempts to classify and define have only complicated that which should be simple! Finding commonality is more viable and productive

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nortman

Jul-31-13 1:51 PM

NoMOreCrap, try some reading comprehension. I wasn't comparing the 2 cases. I was mentioning the crap that Al Sharpton has been involved in to try to keep the races at each other's throats so he can keep collecting money to "fight" racism......but I think you knew that.

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Marmel

Jul-31-13 12:51 PM

"That is why Zimmerman is so divisive, he "represents" white killing black which gives anti-black citizens a cause to support"

Zimmerman is no more white than Obama. You making this claim makes you part of the problem because you invented Zimmerman's race so you can hate him, proving you are a racist.

The second part of your sentence is also devoid of objectivity. It has nothing to do with color but facts. You also must have missed the trail and not researched any of the facts made public. Which, again, makes you part of the problem. You rely on hate and emotion not objectivity and fairness to form your deranged thinking.

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nortman

Jul-31-13 12:28 PM

We will continue to have racial strife while those who make money to "combat" it are still getting paid because they are stoking it. People like Al Sharpton (Tawana Brawley, Freddie's Fashion Mart, Crown Heights Riots), Jessie Jackson ("Hymie Town") and the like make more money when they are able to keep stirring the racist pot. Having it claimed that Shrapton, Jackson, Farrakhan, etc. are combating racism is kind of like claiming that the KKK is doing the same.

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jonathon

Jul-31-13 7:26 AM

Ohcwby, NOW with you wealth of information and to be FAIR, tell all of us the complete history that was not reported at the trial with Martin, please don't sugar coat it with your racial biases just tell it like it is.

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ohcwby

Jul-31-13 6:45 AM

•In December 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. The case was dismissed when the officer failed to show up in court....On Feb. 26, in Sanford, Fla., Zimmerman fatally shot Martin, who was unarmed. Zimmerman, 28, a neighborhood watch volunteer, told police that he shot in self-defense and that Martin attacked him, breaking his nose.

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ohcwby

Jul-31-13 6:44 AM

reallytiredofit is correct... And as far as TM and GZ TM didn't have a record GZ DID and here it was very easy to find.....•In 2005, Zimmerman, then 20, was arrested and charged with “resisting officer with violence” and “battery of law enforcement officer,” both which are third-degree felonies. The charge was reduced to “resisting officer without violence” and then waived when he entered an alcohol education program. Contemporaneous accounts indicate he shoved an officer who was questioning a friend for alleged underage drinking at an Orange County bar....•In August 2005, Zimmerman’s ex-fiancee, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman counter filed for a restraining order against Zuazo. The competing claims were resolved with both restraining orders being granted....

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reallytiredofit

Jul-30-13 5:44 PM

I asked my question NMC, because if Arabs are not white then of course that means that the bulk of the white population of the world is worshiping a Savior that is a person of color. The Jewish people and the Arab peoples are all the same people seperated only by their religious beliefs. They are all the children of Abraham. So there you have it my white brothers and sisters, if you can Worship and pray to a person of color you certainly should be able to love and accept all other people of color as your equals.

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NomoreCrap

Jul-30-13 4:26 PM

I'm sure every ethnic group has rumors & beliefs that are passed around and through generations.

Pushing past rumors & untruths is the path to racial harmony. Both groups need a wider in depth understanding of the other.

Many blacks are living with probably 50yrs of misinformation about whites and the reverse is most certainly true.

When either race lives in such a way as to isolate themselves within their clans & cultures they rely on the advice & wisdom that's been in the family since grandpa was a teen.

Of course that advice is outdated and often false. So we get whites who believe what their great-grandparents did or taught and blacks believing the same.

Which is why racism is prevalent among the poor on both sides. It's closely associated with poverty because wealthy & prosperous folks are able to explore and see more of the world. The learn by experience that this racial inferiority/supremacy thing is bull crap!

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NomoreCrap

Jul-30-13 4:09 PM

Yes I do consider them non white, unfortunately in America even with all their disgusting habits and hatred of America whites seem to accept & respect them enough to treat them nearly as equals.

I have no idea how true this is (yes I can admit not knowing) but I've been told by more than one Muslim that during their application phase Arabs are cautioned against friendships & association both business & social with American blacks.

There is organized fear mongering and discouragement against taking up with blacks. I'm told all foreigners are taught to isolate themselves from, mistrust us and caused to fear us.

Not sure how true this is but will confirm many blacks believe this because it's been a rumor for years and confirmed by several immigrants that I know of...

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NomoreCrap

Jul-30-13 2:47 PM

Um, my response was to your post Senator...

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