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Battleground: Warren

Officials: Drug dealers go ‘where the business is’

April 21, 2013

WARREN — When asked “Why Warren?” police Chief Timothy Bowers summed it up like this: “Drug dealers are no different from other business people. They go where the business is....

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Jun-15-13 9:32 PM

sometimes i think if the mafia was still around we wouldldnt have all these thuggs around.. at least they stuck to themselves..

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Apr-22-13 7:38 PM

Billdog you missed the post on another story where lib8ter said how Harding was the worst school in Trumbull county. I have never said all kids at Harding were bad. I graduated in 02 and still go to the football games. My niece will be going to Harding in two years and yes I will be there to help her and support her. I will never put down the school I graduated from.

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Apr-22-13 1:12 PM

Get the junky, scare the sissyboy/girl with time, and the squeal like pigs.

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Apr-22-13 1:11 PM

MM-Make drugs legal, you do that at your house, I'll keep them illegal at mine.

Reader, you are correct about drug testing. I can't even begin to believe how many people complain of not being able to get a job, then fire up a bone.

notpc4sure-BS; Eric Holter knows nothing of Warren, OH and could give a sh!t about Warren, OH.

mssmith-When was the last time you was in Harding for any length of time and if your kids go there when was the last you got involved in anything there? There are more good kids at Harding and the few bad are all this rag reports on.

The Broken Window Theory has always worked every time it is enforced. Zero tolerance moves the garbage to a new location every time. Crime rates drop every summer in Y'Town the past couple of years because of the V-Grip enforcement by state, county and local police departments. If you took the time to read the indictments you have seen many of those indicted weren't from Warren or Detroit. They was from the burbs.

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Apr-22-13 12:14 PM

MsSmith: I agree that the glorification of the "thug life" is partially to blame. But a lot of blame about that is pointed towards the music/rap industry as well as Hollywood. And no one in a position of power wants to admit that some music, movies and video games are a big part of it. Too much money and executives pay involved. Too many parents subjugate their job to the entertainment business. We live in a culture of death that is anti-family, pro-violence, pro-choice of everything, while taking God out of everything. This simply leads to desensitization of the next generation and their young minds and consciences and then people wonder why there seems to be a large number of killings, domestic violence and drug abuse, parents abandoning their children, etc. There is only one answer to this culture of death and it is on the spiritual path and HE has a name.

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Apr-21-13 5:43 PM

And I do agree, shoot the dealers. No plea deals, no parole, shoot the suckers. Shoot the meth lab owners. Make it a CRIME to sell drugs, not just a slap on the wrist. Again, it iwll be hard. But we have people trained in protecting our country, lets protect it. Not only from those outside of the country, but those in our borders, like drug dealers. Another thing, stop the hero worship. Hollywood actors, pro sport stars, rock starts, hip hop stars, all get worshipped even AFTER they get busted for drugs. If they get caught, they are done working as they do now, do not hire the drug addicted starts ( Charlie Sheen for one )

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Apr-21-13 5:37 PM


I disagree. Many addicts can be helped. The first step is to take away the drugs, stop the sale of drugs. If there is no product, there are no addicts. Yes. it seems impossible. But we have troops all over this world. Bring them home, secure our borders. Inspect every vehicle, boat or plane coming into the USA. Put our military protecting our country not only from terror, but drugs also. We spend millions upon millions of dollars giving money to countries like Pakistan. Screw Pakistan, spend that money here at home. Yes it is a tall order, but what is more important, protecting a bunch of morons who hate us, or protecting our own borders. Bring the troops home, use them to protect the victims of drug abuse.

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Apr-21-13 4:11 PM

you may want take a look at Cleveland too ... that is one of your missing pieces.

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Apr-21-13 2:16 PM

Continued----It's management 101. Someone needs to be in charge, someone needs to take responsibility for the workforce, someone needs to actually MANAGE the City!

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Apr-21-13 2:15 PM

Outtatown is right on-the philosophy of the "broken window theory" works. Everything from trash on the streets, unkempt houses, boarded up buildings and graffiti etc. need to be addressed. The laws are on the books but this is where the Tribune needs to start being a local newspaper and demand action. Give up with the ridiculous photo ops and visit some other cities to see how those cities addressed their problems. Start some discussions from your editorials, ask for letters from our citizens on what they perceive the problems to be and how they can be a part of the solution. Motivate our citizens and be an advocate of "doing something," even if it's just showing up for a council meeting. Learn how our city works (or doesn't), how many officers are on the streets at any given time, how long are the drug dealers held in our jails,how long the prostitutes, how are property codes enforced, who follows up, what penalties are meted--it's not rocket science-it's man

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Apr-21-13 9:16 AM

Enforcing minor crimes can have a major effect. See Rudy Giuliani's implementation of the broken glass theory and "zero tolerance" in New York applied to subway fare evasion, public drinking, urination, graffiti artists and the "squeegee men". Citations involved background check. Not surprisingly, those committing disregarding minor laws and social norms were often guilty of more serious crimes. Crime dropped significantly in NY over a 10 year period.

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Apr-21-13 7:38 AM

Doug Franklin & Bob Dean?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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Apr-21-13 7:34 AM

Tribune stop writing info just so someone will buy your paper I see why people are stealing them passing them out at work they are not worth buying.

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Apr-21-13 7:30 AM

This bust isn't is big as they are making it out to be...some of these people were arrested for buying stolen shoes computers etc..that's why a majority of them are out. So people next time if its sounds too good to be true IT IS!!! STINKY PETES.......LOL

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Apr-21-13 7:24 AM

Detroit and Warren have had drug ties for years this little crackdown wont stop it it will continue so take the smiles off your faces its only going to get worse....

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Apr-21-13 7:20 AM

United States has all the immigrants here owning all these businesses not paying taxes but overcharging us get them out of here. Wouldn't be all these drug problems if all those people wouldn't be in this country start shutting them down and shipping them back to their countries. Why don't they pay taxes but overcharge us consumers I'm sure they will not be missed!!

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Apr-21-13 7:13 AM

Warren think they have done something good with these busts NOT!!! You people are busting these petty people they didn't bring the drugs to the U.S. go after the big guys but NO!!! you wont do that because the same guys in the suits on the news in front of the cameras are the people helping smuggling the drugs in this country.

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Apr-21-13 7:09 AM

Virginia Shank get your facts straight in which you never do!! The tribune is always reporting b.s. just to get a story out.

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Apr-21-13 7:07 AM

Reader I will give you a piece of inside information about what goes on in Warren Harding. You have students who do not care about their education and don't want to be there. They see the glorification of the "thug life" and they see the quick money that comes along with it. So they are so worried about making a quick buck that they don't care who it effects. I don't know how to stop the glorification of the thug life but it needs to stop.

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Apr-21-13 7:00 AM

Eric Holter put the Warren police on notice that arrests will not be tolerated by the Attorney General. This gave the Detroit thugs open season in Warren, it multiplied their business.

This is the same Eric Holter working for Obama that erased the conviction of the Black Panthers who intimidated Phila voters.

Bowers completely brought Holter's advice,lock stock and barrel. Now Bowers can spend his retirement Golfing and the Police are stuck with sensitivity training.

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Apr-21-13 6:51 AM

I don't believe there is a school in TC that does not have a drug/alcohol prevention program. Yet kids keep thinking this lifestyle is acceptable. They begin a life of ingesting/injecting substances in their bodies bought on the streets, have no idea where it came from, how it was cut, and have no idea what is in it.

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Apr-21-13 6:38 AM

It has been my opinion this "battleground Warren" is partially why companies do not want to locate here and partially why unemployment is so high.

Talk with the owners of any business in Warren who have drug testing before employment. How many of those potential employees walk out instead of taking the test? How many of those people would rather get involved in the drug culture rather than get clean?

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Apr-21-13 6:28 AM

warren you let your city get this way because theses drug dealers get a slap on the wrist by your judges,also when you tore down westlawn and other develpoments you let the vermin go all over the city also mullets legalization is just plain stupidty

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Apr-21-13 6:23 AM

Congrats to law enforcement for doing their job and getting these scumbags all rounded up. Now the courts need to do theirs by putting them away in Jail for a good long stay.

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Apr-21-13 5:40 AM

Might as well make burglary and theft legal also. The last thing we need is to make it legal to become a piece of parasite on society.

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