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Warren set $100K aside for fire cuts

March 3, 2013

WARREN — The city has set aside $100,000 in its 2013 budget to pay unemployment benefits to 14 firefighters who may be laid off due the city not receiving the 2013 Staffing for Adequate Fire and......

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jtoday

Mar-05-13 12:06 PM

Hey negative bloggers... do the math. Ms. Rucker is right. This is just a typo on the tribunes. If any of you know how to use a calculator, you will find that the Trib left off a "zero". It should have been a firefighter for every "580" residents.

THE TRIB VERIFIED THIS POST TODAY. SHOULD HAVE SAID '580'

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mrright

Mar-05-13 7:28 AM

tO: notpc: It's called the( pick up ) Their New God Obama- calls it spreading the wealth. The City calls it Costly The Firemen call it getting a free ride.

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phbluk

Mar-04-13 11:55 PM

notpc4sure: For the very last time Sir: the article published above has nothing at all to do with ANY of your posts. You repeat the same thing and imagine that somehow you are helping. You are not. None of your posts are on topic. i wash my hands fom the likes of you.

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notpc4sure

Mar-04-13 11:40 PM

PHBLUK- You're not addressing the Fire Dept issue- Paying their fair share for their own Personal Pensions & Fringe Benefits.

If they paid their fair share, you would have more firemen.

You don't understand it- The Fire Dept is cheating the Warren taxpayers by thinking they're the Elite worker and not responsible to pay for hospitalization and pensions.

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phbluk

Mar-04-13 10:30 PM

reply to david1: sir: It takes 15 persons to safely suppress a structure fire. Four are required by NFPA standards of safety to effect a rescue of an entapped victim. Thus the number of fire personnel REQUIRED for safe and efficient fire operations is predetermined by science and not any other means.There are three turns 'shifts' that are on duty at 24=hour intervals each.Vacations, scheduled days off, sick time all add to the required total. ISO guidelines for distribution of fire suppression units determine the location and number of fire stations. So that is that.

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david1

Mar-04-13 9:34 PM

Ph...worn needs more cops...lets face it. Crime is out of control. Fires not so much.

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david1

Mar-04-13 9:30 PM

Notpctard...just become a firefighter and quit crying.

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notpc4sure

Mar-04-13 7:04 PM

PHBLUK; Let me simplify it for you. This applies to workers whether in the Fire Dept,Street Dept or in a private sector job.

When will the Fire Dept start paying their fair share of Pensions,Fringe Benefits? Why should private sector workers share in their personal pensions and then pay for Fire dept pensions?

When is the City going lookout for the taxpayer?

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phbluk

Mar-04-13 5:56 PM

to mr. notpc4sure I'm not a firefighter sir. What facts are you discussing? When you catch on fire just hope that 3 people will be able to save you.[within 4 minutes that is]

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BettyDaily

Mar-04-13 5:10 PM

Facts are few, but are they futile?

Page 2-13 of Warren's performance audit contains recommended staffing for the fire department.

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notpc4sure

Mar-04-13 3:43 PM

To: phbluk: I stated facts Warren, Oh vs. New York City.

If your so concerned about saving all the extra workers, then why don't you re open your contract and start paying your fair share(Pensions Hospitalization)

I'll be waiting to read about Firemens Union seek to re open contract with city in order to save jobs. What do you think?

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phbluk

Mar-04-13 4:23 AM

notpc4sure "Warren, Oh is not a NYC or Chicago-where fire Dept works everyday and everynight. Most of the Warren's houses, apartments and businesses have fire alarms- years ago they were not around."--Fact: Your home/business fire insurance DOES work every night. Fire protection is an INSURANCE against catastrophic loss of life and property.Do you need a fire every night to decide to buy fire insurance? If you don't use it do you cancel the policy? This just goes to show how shallow 99.999% of the posts on this topic have been: thoughtless, brainless, spineless. The usual mental vomit that graces these comment sections "every night"!!!

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NachoCheese

Mar-04-13 1:20 AM

Now you see what happens when you live by all that Obama "free money"? The election is over, he's laughing all the way to the White House, and now your grant money is all gone - as if that should surprise anyone? The "city of Warren" is headed the direction of the "city of Detroit" - the sooner Warren is euthanized, the better for Trumbull County. Spend the money on bulldozers instead.

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notpc4sure

Mar-03-13 10:28 PM

Face Facts: Warren, Oh is not a NYC or Chicago-where fire Dept works everyday and everynight.

Most of the Warren's houses, apartments and businesses have fire alarms- years ago they were not around.

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david1

Mar-03-13 6:54 PM

Firemen are good to have, but Warren need more cops.......Warren is just not safe. The only people that are going to be left are tards like Welfareproud.

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FireFightingDrone

Mar-03-13 6:26 PM

Gotta lay off some of the safety forces to ensure there's adequate funds to pay the Safety Service Director.

Or, you could just say: "Government". lol

(-:

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phbluk

Mar-03-13 5:08 PM

For those online readers who are here not to post a comment along with a private agenda: Come may 2013 the present federal grant for assisting the fire dept. [to staff at the present number of 69] will have been depleted. The notion that all three fire stations will remain open 24/7 is highly unlikely. In all probability only the Central Station will remain with 11 persons per turn minimum. Any and all calls for help will be answered from that location when all units are in quarters. When all units respond to a scene there will be at best one unit from among these that can be redirected from one incident to another.Otherwise a recall of off-duty personnel will require 30-45 minutes to implement, depending on how many off-duty persons are at home and can be contacted by telephone.To depend on outside help from Howland Fire is not a good way to do business. The city and its populace will thus have to do with less.

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david1

Mar-03-13 4:46 PM

Warren is a hole....no business will come, no business will stay. No fireman no cops and the city makes it impossible to start business. Tards

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6452901

Mar-03-13 4:32 PM

Hey negative bloggers... do the math. Ms. Rucker is right. This is just a typo on the tribunes. If any of you know how to use a calculator, you will find that the Trib left off a "zero". It should have been a firefighter for every "580" residents.

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jtoday

Mar-03-13 3:23 PM

I am wondering if Ms. Rucker said 'residence' and not 'residents'?

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FamilyGuy

Mar-03-13 1:16 PM

Local governments should think long and hard about accepting temporary Federal tax dollars to fund local responsibilities.

The end of the "free" money WILL come someday and we, locally, will have no say as to when.

And now we must spend $100K of our own tax dollars for unemployment benefits for which the local citizens get zero in return.

Not to mention the disruption to the lives of the firefighters we couldn't afford to hire in the first place.

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david1

Mar-03-13 12:52 PM

welfare proud and Rucker r tards

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6452901

Mar-03-13 12:02 PM

How about we get rid of all of the vacant structures that the thugs set on fire...than we can gauge our firefighters staffing on the population?

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thebear402

Mar-03-13 10:47 AM

It doesn't matter how many residents a city has, it matters how many fire calls a city has. I would think, given all the vacant and abandoned buildings, as well as Warren's high crime rate, that Warren would have a very high fire call per capita.

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anniemae

Mar-03-13 9:13 AM

I think goofy Maxine Waters was corrected to be 170,000. Keep her off the mics if she has no clue!!!!!!

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