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Council backs senior apartments

February 14, 2013

WARREN — Despite qualms from some residents, City Council voted 9-0 Wednesday to support a proposed 60-unit senior apartment complex planned for 2501 Parkman Road, next to the Trumbull Plaza....

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nativio289

Feb-15-13 12:07 PM

Reader, you are onto something with the Riverview...One of my customers had to move his mother out of there about fifteen years ago because of the sliding-down standards being used to place people in those towers.

And yes, if it is maintenance issues that are causing TMHA to tear down that building, far as I'm concerned, that is as much a waste of tax payer money as Warren's Sunshine boondoggle. Tax payer money going into a black hole.

And, Guy, when are we getting a follow up to the Sunshine stories?

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reader

Feb-15-13 6:16 AM

Why is the other complex's building being demolished. At one time, it was a nice place to live. Then someone opened it up to section 8, I believe. People living there told me this so I don't know if that is true. People I have known living there also said people are constantly walking from door to door asking for money. So does someone think we will just tear this down, relocate it, and the problems will be different? Or was the building not maintained? Along the same lines, will the maintenance issue also happen at this YWCA when they are done with that project? Taxpayers need to be asking a lot more questions than we have been.

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featherstone

Feb-14-13 11:41 PM

Nat. Believe W.P.D. had a sub station years ago, maybe off Palmyra? Think it was under a federal grant. Could be mistaken. At one time there were number of officers living on NW corner. Thought I heard couple little lambs, david1 if I were u, I wouldn't want to live near me either! Blues u don't live in the city anyways so what do you care? Nice easy day at work tomorrow huh Blues?

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david1

Feb-14-13 9:48 PM

For those of you who disagreed with me....your right, I would want them living near me either.

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 7:22 PM

Again, where is this newspaper on this wetlands issue?

I've thought for awhile that the police should borrow a page from how cities handle their fire department coverage with satellite stations...

Why not have a small police station, just two officers and a few desks and a few squad cars, in that big plaza or in a strip plaza near this Parkman rd. area? Still have them patrol from that "station", not just sit there like security guards...Just have a WPD facade, signage and a presence to make the good people feel safe and the make the bottom feeders apprehensive.

Imagine if the city had done this twenty years ago in the Austin Village Plaza area... Perhaps that plaza would still be functioning?

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david1

Feb-14-13 6:49 PM

They can walk to KMart and buy depends

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david1

Feb-14-13 5:54 PM

Oh come on lets give Zen and Stoner a place to live.

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reader

Feb-14-13 3:51 PM

They can't build on it.It is wetlands. Don't you think if they could have built that middle school there, Warren City would have? Of course they would have.

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reader

Feb-14-13 3:47 PM

I hear you. Let's not forget the YWCA.

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featherstone

Feb-14-13 3:39 PM

If a senior high rise is built on this location, it is an absolute necessity that Warren City police patrol the area more. I don't see near, nowhere near, the number of police on NW corner as NE. A lot to consider when building a retirement/senior apartment complex.

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featherstone

Feb-14-13 3:34 PM

Sadly, I would not want an elderly Loved one to live in this area. 25 years ago would feel different. Nativio raises a point I have struggled to understand for years, NW side of Warren never grew buisness and residency wise, being so close to Turnpike and having 422 shoot straight to Cleveland. That side of town over by Southern Blvd was the neighborhood to move into in late 60's thru 70's in the City. Very good points Nat.

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 3:19 PM

Reader, in a better city with a better newspaper, this wetlands thing would have a constant drum beat, the likes of which we are greeted with in regards to double dipping, the Port Authority hiring and the Liberty School District financial woes...

Isn't odd the blinders this paper seems to have when it comes to some things that would seem to be in their conservative, don't ream the tax payers wheelhouse?

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reader

Feb-14-13 2:07 PM

Wetlands, yes that was it. You can't build on wetlands. There are reasons for that--environmental and construction issues. I can't believe officials keep recycling these type of ideas over and over again. Don't you read the newspapers or listen to the news? And council backs these ideas? More taxpayer money is going to be directed in a wrong direction and those of us with any kind of memory about the Warren City School purchasing that property are just shaking our heads.

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 1:09 PM

DelphiFair--- they will never publicly state that the under-30 SS crowd or cracked-out mongoloids will never live there.

That is the end point to all of this low income housing in this area... It all ends up needing to be filled with people the government is paying to put somewhere.

Though I could be wrong. Now that older folks, and those retiring over the next twenty-thirty years are not on par financially with those lucky to have retired over the past thirty... Those people could afford to move to Florida or just out of the area... So these old people high rises NEEDED to warehouse losers and sex offenders... Folks retiring now and soon are not that lucky. Sadly. Who knows? Maybe they will mean "old people only" this time...

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 1:05 PM

Oh, heck... I honestly meant "what is the definition of handicapped when it comes down to it"... Was not slamming "fairandretired" there. Honest.

Bill--- Yeah, I know, I know... I do know a little... Just asking questions publicly to see if any of the editors want to be serious about their role of watchdog of tax payer money...

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AnotherMike

Feb-14-13 1:04 PM

We have to make sure that ALL facilities for seniors must be built in the ghetto or close to it..."they can walk to the Trumbull Plaza" where almost no one goes in fear of their lives. Warren and Youngstown...going backwards at an alarming rate!!

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Billdog

Feb-14-13 1:00 PM

nativio, look at who they bought it off of. Follow the money. half a million for property that can't be used for anything but bird watching is pretty good for somebody. Hmmmmm????

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DelphiRetiree

Feb-14-13 12:50 PM

Warren City Council & TMHA - PUBLISH in the Trib EXACTLY who can live in this new TMHA housing IN WRITING. Then you must be ACCOUNTABLE, as you should be!!

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 12:27 PM

Deep down folks who are against this stuff realize that this is all Warren is good for these days. Dollar stores and low income housing and family missions and it makes them rightfully angry.

Stinks. It really does. I guess in a better world, that area, so close to the turnpike and 82 and on 422, would be perfect for shopping and dining...

But Warren gets warehousing of old poor people.

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nativio289

Feb-14-13 12:13 PM

FairandRetiried is correct. What is the definition of retired when it comes down to it?

I've seen these under 30 SSD basket cases meandering around downtown. Lucky for this new project, and that area, that these losers will be prohibited, for the time being, from living in this new development.

Questions!

Why is one of the Riverview towers being demolished? Disrepair? Lack of occupancy?

And golly, will we ever get an answer as to why the school board bought those wetlands, even after the EPA said "heck no"?

And was there some deal between TMHA and various board members regarding this property? Did the board use your tax dollars to buy property merely to flip it to TMHA at some point? Seems silly, since they are taking a loss, but it isn't their money after all...

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DelphiRetiree

Feb-14-13 9:22 AM

Mr. Donald W. Emerson Jr.,DEFINE HANDICAPPED for us readers!!!!

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DelphiRetiree

Feb-14-13 9:20 AM

I hope that us residents on the NW side can take Eddie Colbert's statement to us as FACT> He stated that TMHA's license will NOT allow residents in this faciltiy to have a handicap that involves DRUG USE!! A DRUG USE handicap is NOT WELCOME in our precinct, nor should TMHA allow it, as they did in the Riverside Apts!!!

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Billdog

Feb-14-13 9:17 AM

Expanded to disabled? Does that include the mentally disabled?

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chaos2

Feb-14-13 6:55 AM

Does it not seem very odd that the city administration would not support,defend or fight for a similar seniors project off North Rd. SE recently for a private developer,but supports Mr. E of T.M.H.A with a similar project on Parkman Rd. NW.Looks like it is politics as usual in Warren, Ohio.A little competition = less tenants for T.M.H.A.

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reader

Feb-14-13 6:09 AM

Is this the same plot of land that was involved with Warren City Schools when they wanted to build a middle school there? Sounds like it. It is a swamp-type area. The Warren board of ed couldn't be talked out of building a school there because of the type of land it was. After they bought it, they ended up having red faces and financial problems over how someone did not pay attention to the land type.

So here we go again. Unless something has drastically changed, you can't build on that land. I hope Council explains how it now can be built on and couldn't then.

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