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Septic system issue not fair to woman

February 3, 2013

DEAR EDITOR: I have a good friend I’ve known since the 7th Grade whose grandma is being faced with a $16,000 bill all because of a law that was passed in the state of Ohio....

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jsabalo

Feb-09-13 10:53 PM

Annie it would take a lot of research. You could go to the Board of Health meeting in a week or two and introduce yourself. There's just a ton of info on the facebook site!

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Annie53

Feb-08-13 12:49 AM

"In all seriousness you really should check out the facebook group Trumbull County Septic News..."

Is there any way to get this information without having to join Facebook?

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Billdog

Feb-06-13 1:28 PM

NewtonFallsHowland, use your operating system to check spelling.

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NewtonFallsHowland

Feb-06-13 9:01 AM

*****, DUDN'T it!

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Billdog

Feb-05-13 12:40 PM

Brynden, because you know the person doesn't mean you know the law. I have been through this myself. Barbra George is also elderly. Maybe a few more years will help understand the content of my comment.

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4seasons

Feb-05-13 12:28 PM

Thanks Billdog.

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jsabalo

Feb-05-13 9:58 AM

@surv69....... In all seriousness you really should check out the facebook group Trumbull County Septic News. I would love to see you post these last comments on there.

It seems that the only thing missing from the whole septic mess is common sense. I think once it's all said and done we will see a much more nefarious reason for this then just plain ignorance. There is a different set of rules for those on the inside. The rest of us are the ones that have to ante up. When the least little thread starts to stick out, this whole ball of yarn will be unraveled.

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SURV69

Feb-05-13 9:09 AM

To me this whole idea is un-American.

I can understand that everyone will benefit from the sewer line . . . eventually and as distasteful as it is, it would make sense that as neighbor's septic systems become non-compliant, that they will have to tie-in, at a cost, and then it would make sense that they should then share in the costs of the sewer extension.

BUT this law is supposed to be an incentive so that business's can now rely on unwilling partners for a sewer line and citizens with non-compliant systems can rely on neighbors to help him/her with the remedy for non-compliance.

It's all distasteful, but mostly, the timing of the "payback", and the forcing of compliant owners to abandon good systems in order for the instigator to get money back relatively fast is mean-spirited and downright wrong.

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SURV69

Feb-05-13 9:03 AM

either because it's a business decision or through some causation was forced to put the sewer in.

So, this really makes everyone else(along the route), either an unwilling participant to the business enterprise, or an unwilling participant in someone else's non-compliance with septic regulations(a septic that's not working).

SO E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y ALONG THE ROUTE has properly maintained their system and now someone farther up the road who has not maintained their system now must become compliant.

If that compliance must be derived through an extended sewer line . . . guess what, all the people who "properly" maintained their systems must pay and must pay fast . . . within a very sort time window, to reimburse the person who had to put the extension in.

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SURV69

Feb-05-13 8:57 AM

Another fine example of primadonna legislators not understanding how people in the real world live.

Years ago, if I remember right, if a business put in a extension of a sewer, the people along that line had something like 20 years(spread out), to "repay", the business and I think that the business that "profited", from the sewer didn't quite get ALL the money they spent for the sewer.

It makes sense to me for someone who has the need for a sewer to pay for the sewer. It also makes sense for others who will benefit, secondly, from the sewer to "contribute" to the cost, in a more fair, more equitable and monetarily spread out fashion . . . like payments for a car.

BUT, now when someone has to, or WANTS to for their own benefit, put in a sewer everyone now has to ante' up much faster to relieve the burden on the person who put the sewer in.

Forget that the person who has to or wants to put the sewer in benefits from the sewer,

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Brynden

Feb-04-13 6:39 PM

And secondly, Barbara George's issue has nothing to do with this woman. Its age discrimination and again, NO ONE knew that this law even existed. So, if you wanna sit here and argue about someones financial situation that you don't know ANYTHING about, you do that. Waste your time. Don't speak until you know about someones situation first hand, like I do!

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Brynden

Feb-04-13 6:37 PM

Yeah, I know very little about it, yet I know whats going on first hand. Right. Your comment is also all over the place. First of all, you tell me I dont know what Im talking about, but then its discrimination. How about you try making your mind up first.

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 1:14 PM

Barbra George, 10364 East Market I believe this is Vienna Township. They put the new apartments in across the street from this house. The developer put sewer lines in to run to the apartments. She has never been made to hook in because she also claims to not have the money.

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4seasons

Feb-04-13 12:52 PM

Thanks. I'll check back periodically.

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 12:40 PM

Give me a few. I'll try to look it up.

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4seasons

Feb-04-13 12:27 PM

Billdog, do you have a property address or last name of homeowner? This would be helpful to show discrimination. Any info you have is appreciated.

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 11:23 AM

for long periods without consequence for the other homeowners.

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Billdog

Feb-04-13 11:23 AM

Brynden, this is an issue you apparently know vary little about. It isn't a private septic line it is a sewer line that the neighbor privately contracted to have installed. There is a major difference. Although I think the way the county (not the city) goes about enforcing this law is insane. If this woman's septic tank is working properly or not creating any environmental damage then it should be left alone until deed transfer takes place like septic tank replacement for properties. There is other cases like this. A woman that has a property on Old 82 in Howland has a similar issue. She has been five years and still hasn't tapped into the sewer that was put in under private contract. I don't believe they have done anything to her because the cost is beyond her ability to pay as well. Do some research Bryndon and have your facts straight when this woman has to go to court. It could turn into a discrimination issue if can find other cases like this that have gone unresolved for long pe

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Brynden

Feb-03-13 8:18 PM

It IS in fact a scam. This could have been easily avoided had someone actually done their JOB and made this law known to people. Someone needs to lose their job over this. Its sad too because as soon as they see $$$$ signs, they go crazy. This could literally hospitalize this woman because she worries about it!

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jsabalo

Feb-03-13 8:17 PM

Among other crimes daniel. Their time is coming.

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Daniel

Feb-03-13 7:43 AM

This law is a scam and only amounts to extortion. These people doing this to her should be arrested for attempted theft.

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