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Massage parlors on agenda

Warren looks to reduce number of licenses

January 11, 2013

WARREN — The city is looking to reduce the number of massage parlor licenses available from a maximum of 10 to a number it can more reasonably handl....

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WarrenProud

Jan-11-13 5:01 AM

Outlaw the Spas period and be done with it council. You can't even think of a rebirth for this city with those scum spas located in it.

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raven101

Jan-11-13 5:33 AM

warrenproud you really need to take a look around at all the other stuff happening in this city before you condemn this

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Daniel

Jan-11-13 5:38 AM

If they had just kept these businesses legit then they would still be there. You cannot run whore and drug shacks and import sex slaves and not be expected to be shut down.

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ArticWoof

Jan-11-13 6:42 AM

Daniel, there was not ONE case of sex trafficking ever brought to court. That was nothing more than the holy rollers tossing out a moral objection to make them feel good about themselves. I will not argue, shut them down if they are running a sex shop or drug house. BUT, the fact is, all they did was move to the streets. Sure you chased the hookers out of the Spas, but it did nothing to stop the hookers from working the streets or in other buildings.

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ArticWoof

Jan-11-13 6:46 AM

The whole sutting doen the Spas thing was nothing more than a political agenda and moral uprising from certain church groups. The mayor and the law director got to thump thier chests and look like they gave a crap. " Wooo hooo, we stopped the Spas and got our pictures in the paper. " When will they stop the hookers from standing on the street corners? When will they stop the hookers from working from the bars, the mall, the motels? When will they stop drugs from being sold in borad daylight to school children? Oh it is easy to talk tough about an Asion Health Spa, but they hide behind thier desk when it comes to handling the BIG problems.

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ArticWoof

Jan-11-13 6:47 AM

Forgive my typing errors,,,going to get my coffee now,,, LOL

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dabigguy

Jan-11-13 8:00 AM

How the*****does Warren ever expect to move forward when it's being run by people who have a difficult time solving a simple problem? Any half-way intelligent council and law director would have had these embarrassments shut down years ago. Let's face it . . . someone here is DEFINITELY getting "rubbed the right way" . . . and it ain't the general public.

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 8:19 AM

Adequately regulate? What a joke ..... I suggest we put our resources into regulating the real problem / problems that have severely gotten worse. And please, don't suggest forming a task force for this problem too ........

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FairandEqual

Jan-11-13 8:28 AM

Let's see, the City is looking to see how many establishments that promote illegal prostitution & the sex trade that it can reasonably handle.

Mayor Franklin - I beleive the ONLY answer is ZERO!!! Next problem....

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 9:22 AM

This is such a waste of tax payers money over a million dollars already and not one person charged. This is the kind of crap that makes our city look stupid. We have prostitutes walking every corner and we are known for our ****** and the state is worrried about a business that does not effect anyone unless you go there. We have hookers and drug dealers everywhere that effect the everyday life for so many. It is not safe to drive down over half of the streets in this city yet every time I drove by a spa I did'nt even think about it. We need to fix the real problems and the ones that effect so many people instead of just wasting our money. How about closing down the ****** houses. When we have people from other states coming here to do drug business because we turn the other eye it should be a wake up call for our jugdes and everyone to see we have a problem and the spas are just a way to take the spot light off of the real problem

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 9:24 AM

I guess you can not even write the word that effects this city it is a drug that is on ever corner and it attracts prositutes and violence I can't believe the tribune blocks out the word like that is going to stop the problem

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 10:02 AM

It's offensive wouldn't you know. The drug trade has turned into our new "tourism business" and its very highly successful. Just think, not only can get your drugs but you can get serviced at the same stop pretty much anywhere. The city is consumed and its consumed by a lot more than drugs and prostitution. There's no more pride for what you live in as none of them have to live in it .....

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Billdog

Jan-11-13 10:21 AM

An the city's problems was going to end with the closing of the spas. What a joke. I wonder if Mr. Dukes would still be with us if the spas were still open, NOT, I wonder if the drugs being traded for cash would be off the streets if the spas was still open, NOT, what a bunch of crap. Shut down city hall because the bad jokes coming out of there will make enough money to carry the city.

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 10:44 AM

Its the normal these days in creating diversions to ignore the real problem. It's simple and not rocket science. Stop the flow of drugs and you've put a major dent in everything else that fuels it and or comes along with it. We need leaders that have ethics and morals instead of other personal gain interests.

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 11:08 AM

I just want to laugh everytime I read about the spas like they are the main problem this city has. I think that the drug houses need closed and then they need to stick rehab right in the same house and do that over and over until all the drug houses are gone Why are there dealers from Michigan here? Why is it the same houses being busted over and over again? If a house is busted once then warn the owner if it is busted twice tear it down. If the landlord keeps renting to these kind of people then he loses. If you get caught dealing you should be in jail at least 5 years therefore the people who you have gotten addicted have the chance to get straight. We need more rehabs and I mean rehabs not a place that a agency makes money no matter what. I think that the cost of rehab should be according to the sucess of it's patiences. I think all people collecting assistance should tested and if they do not pass REHAB we need to clean up our country and we need to do it fast.

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JaniceJWGH99

Jan-11-13 11:19 AM

The dealers are bad Glenda but the addicts are worse and drive the market. With times so bad dealing pays bills so stopping the need will help eliminate the dealer.

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FamilyGuy

Jan-11-13 11:29 AM

Stop the dog and pony show.

Focus on drugs and the violent street crime that accompanies these transactions first then go after the behind the doors massage parlors.

When is the last time a violent crime or a violent death occurred in a massage parlor?

Same question for the streets of Warren, Ohio.

A matter of priorities, not support for massage parlors.

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Triumph

Jan-11-13 11:40 AM

The bulk of our problems could be alleviated by legalizing and taxing prostitution and marijuana.

If smoking weed and having sex isn't for you, then don't do it but for those who like those things, they should be able to do it without the secrecy and violence. Let them be government regulated and taxed. You clean up the bulk of the crime almost immediately. Pimps and the majority of drug dealers won't have anything to do.

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 11:45 AM

Here come the apologists for brothels!

First off, good for the mayor. Limited the amount of licenses is a great thing. He has to overcome the objections of the law director to get this done. Hope it gets done.

Now for the silly statements some of you cats and kittens are making.

At no point as anyone in the city government said that this is "main problem this city has..." At no point has anyone in the city government said that the problems will all go away if the spas were closed.

You people are making crap up to vent on your straw dog BS arguments.

Limited the licenses is a bureaucratic filing and paper shuffling job. By no means does doing this take a cop away from the streets, or any heat off of the "real problems" of the city.

And I do realize you people like to think that Warren city if 100% run by retarded people (only about 60% actually), they are capable of handling this issue AND doing other things.

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 11:49 AM

That's not going to help the major problem with the drugs that have their grip on the city. Maybe if they legalized them along with dens and galleries something would change. Marijuana doesn't turn your mind into something like the others do. In the day society taught that marijuana lead to use of harder drugs. Well, they were one hundred percent right. Get rid of the two major narcotics and you'll have success. Anything less and you get more of the same.

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Triumph

Jan-11-13 12:35 PM

Marijuana does not lead to harder drugs. Whoever tried that trick on you is probably the same one who told you that if you aren't a good girl you will go burn in a fiery pit for all eternity. another BS lie.

Cops spend a lot of time on marijuana and the jails are full of potheads and pot dealers. Make Marijuana legal and they can focus on the real drugs. Make prostitution legal and leave******old men alone. You could be gaining tax dollars instead of spending them. It worked in Vegas.

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 1:40 PM

Right, and crack isn't addictive.

Pot heads and pot dealers are NOT what fuels the problem that we have. I agree, that stopping wasted time and space could help aid in dealing with the other major drug war. I lived in Nevada and you're wrong, it doesn't work and the consequences are staggering. You see Nevada has very little population to tax to begin with. Their only source is to tax everything else that their tourists come to enjoy. Maybe were on to something since our reputation has grown in the tourist industry as well! One stop shop for whatever you need .....

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 1:55 PM

If what is happening in this city is what you call capable we are in trouble. I have read more crap about these spas then anything. We spend a million $s on shutting down a bunch of old ladies when a million $s could of done a lot for the drug and crime we have. If this city was run bt competent people that money they would of used to get rid of the trash running amuck throughout our city. That money could of been used to bring on more police officers but hey its all about priorities and what was going on in those building was high on the states list I guess above the safety of the community

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 2:09 PM

We are a city under siege and the trash includes some of our own dedicated, loyal, leaders ......... It's obvious priority is "padding the pocket" before anything else or something would have been done by now. You see, you have to enforce somethings with law just not the most major thing ........

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Triumph

Jan-11-13 2:09 PM

Zen, crack is not made with Marijuana. My point was marijuana smokers are the most mellow group of people you will ever run across. Probably standing in line at Circle K buying a bag of Combos and some Reeses. A lot of time and money is wasted on hunting them down and prosecuting them and putting them in jail. They need to stop doing that. Make it legal. Tax it. Use the revenue to hunt down and abolish real drugs. I have lots and lots and lots of family in Nevada. Legal Prostitution works fine out there. The brothels are clean and well kept. The hookers are clean and checked every 6 months. It was even on HBO.

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