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Massage parlors on agenda

Warren looks to reduce number of licenses

January 11, 2013

WARREN — The city is looking to reduce the number of massage parlor licenses available from a maximum of 10 to a number it can more reasonably handl....

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featherstone

Jan-14-13 7:35 AM

Atty DeWine, and yea that's his job! City couldn't handle it obviously. Soo, ??

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featherstone

Jan-14-13 7:32 AM

So jtoday, after listing your important info on who does what as you always do. Was there in fact any human trafficking? And it is obvious Drained played lead in the investigation sting of the century in Warren Ohio. BCI did the leg work, and found pretty much nothing, and they are as thorough and meticulous as a law enforcement can be. So Liz Ranade Janis didn't save any lives in this incident.

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featherstone

Jan-14-13 7:25 AM

Ah, Nativio. Didn't say this massage parlor issue would take law enforcement personnel away from more important problems. It doesn't make sense to 1st try and do away with the parlors, now Warren wants to limit the license number_(maybe be cause the parlors are few legitimate buisnesses surviving in city, and Goverment has to have their cut), but at same time city wants to make this huge moral grand stand. Like U Said Nativio, which is it, No Parlors or Parlors??????

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jtoday

Jan-12-13 1:14 PM

Elizabeth Ranade Janis, that is the name of the new Human-Trafficking Coordinator for the State of Ohio.

Atty DeWine was personally involved in the closing of the parlors in Warren

They both can find Warren on a map.

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jtoday

Jan-12-13 1:14 PM

Elizabeth Ranade Janis, that is the name of the new Human-Trafficking Coordinator for the State of Ohio.

Atty DeWine was personally involved in the closing of the parlors in Warren

They both can find Warren on a map.

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nativio289

Jan-12-13 11:09 AM

limiting...

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nativio289

Jan-12-13 11:09 AM

Again, featherstone, limited the amount of licenses available is NOTHING THAT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT OF BIGGER PROBLEMS!!~!

Jesus, people... This is something that happens in meeting rooms and offices and in council chambers. So long as the law department doesn't get on an obstructionist mood on this, it can done in weeks.

And look at it this way, this frees up the health department from having to maybe one day have to inspect ten of these places, freeing up those resources to keep more of an eye on rentals and such.

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Goneforgood

Jan-12-13 6:01 AM

dosequisyes, I didn’t see one comment from liemonger, maybe it was removed but if not why would you even bring his user name up on this comment board?

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featherstone

Jan-11-13 7:18 PM

BCI handled investigation. Sorry.

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featherstone

Jan-11-13 7:17 PM

Violent crime should be dealt with first, these spasm aren't chasing people and buisness out of the city, and as far as I've read nobody has been hurt, robbed or victimized at a spa. Matter of speculation, no evidence of sex slaves or human trafficking, if there was City couldn't handle it as NVIDIA was asked to investigate the first time.

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Ihateusblues

Jan-11-13 7:01 PM

I blame reporting for this article. With the recent shooting problems, I doubt that the city's biggest focus is on the parlors again. If I'm wrong.......God help us all.

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 6:14 PM

Anyone who thinks that drugs are being ignored while three people in the mayor's office and law office talk about limiting licenses for these brothels is a simpleton.

Or you are just so frustrated you aren't seeing clearly.

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 6:12 PM

"Who decides which ones stay and which ones go?"

Here we go... Out of the two still open, one was closed for remodeling while this investigation was going on. So nothing was tracked. They weren't going to put cameras and state police on a business that was not open. The second one is still open because, due to the bar run out of the back of the brothel, there was no way to put cameras in in such a way where patrons of the bar could be separated from those paying for sex. At least that's what I heard.

"Like I said it's a joke and a way to divert the pubic from the real issues this city has."

I know what you said. I speak your language. You still haven't proved that this is a smokescreen to divert folks from the real issues.

This paper covers arrests that happen related to drugs, felons and fugitives. The full power of Warren City government has not come to a standstill to pass what amounts to a bureaucratic gesture over these brothels.

Anyone who thinks tha

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 6:09 PM

"Are these parlors legal or not?"

They are as legal as the mafia run pizza shop. Yeah, they still make pizza, but the money laundering and racketeering that operate out of the back room are not legal.

What part of the the "massage" function was mostly a smokescreen for what was really going on? Why are you so functionally dense when it comes to this?

"Did anyone go to jail?"

You are the one who claims this is all you read about. You tell me.

W"hat was the purpose of the cameras for a year and all the man power and wasted tax payers dollars."

They tracked the customers and then got the customers to admit to what they were there for. Wasted? They shut the brothels down. Not wasted.

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ArticWoof

Jan-11-13 4:29 PM

Triumph, I can agree to some of your point to making hooking and pot legal. The tax it. But here lies the problem to that. Add tax to sex for sale, a tooshy tax. The price goes up. Add tax to the price of pot, a doobie tax. The price goes up. So now all those folks who like tooshy and doobies will STILL seek out the lowest prices. In other words, the illegal dealers and hookers will still thrive. So now you going to have to regulate the legal dealings, AND stop the illegal dealings. We do not have enough cops to stop it now, how do you think they will regulate it

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 4:17 PM

Are these parlors legal or not? I thought that human trafficing was the reason for shutting them down. Did anyone go to jail? What was the purpose of the cameras for a year and all the man power and wasted tax payers dollars. Is a politician getting free services or something? Who decides which ones stay and which ones go? Is someone going to go see who gives best service? Like I said it's a joke and a way to divert the pubic from the real issues this city has.

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neversummer

Jan-11-13 3:58 PM

Government loves task forces.

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AFRET1

Jan-11-13 3:58 PM

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! Rape & Pilage and now we're focusing on massage palors again? You people who keep re-electing your Dem idols deserve what you get.

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FairandEqual

Jan-11-13 3:05 PM

Just because sex parlors aren't the biggest problem does NOT mean they shouldn't be closed.

Let's see, the City is looking to see how many establishments that promote illegal prostitution & the sex trade that it can reasonably handle.

Mayor Franklin - I beleive the ONLY answer is ZERO!!! Next problem....

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 2:32 PM

Triumph, I agree that weed smokers who don't partake in the use of other drugs could be a much mellower bunch. In today's society maybe there are few who limit themselves to just weed. The demand for other substances far outweigh the demand for smoke. Maybe in today's society weed isn't even looked at and users go straight to the harder drugs to begin with. Never the less, we'll never see legalization for either marijuana or prostitution in the state of Ohio.

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 2:13 PM

I'm not saying they are competent. I said they are mostly incompetent. Some of them are very competent.

And they rest of your statement I have trouble understanding.

Would love to see brothels legalized. Why not?

Just was not a fan of this wink-wink, nudge-nudge sort of legal status that these massage brothels had.

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nativio289

Jan-11-13 2:10 PM

Well, Gelnda, allow me to retort.

"I have read more crap about these spas then anything."

Well, that is an issue with this paper and any other local papers you might read. Of course, this is the first massage parlor story I've seen since last fall... And of course, there were about half a dozen about the New Years Eve shooting story. Well over twice that many about the Veteran's Day shooting and its related tangents... Are you sure massage parlors are all you've been reading about? "We spend a million $s on shutting down a bunch of old ladies..."

Who is the "we" you are referring to? Certainly not the city of Warren. Perhaps you are talking about the state when they came in and finally shut those BROTHELS down? If so, please let us know where you came up with the "millions" figure.

"If this city was run bt competent people...get rid of the trash running amuck throughout our city..."

I'm not saying they are competent. I said the

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Triumph

Jan-11-13 2:09 PM

Zen, crack is not made with Marijuana. My point was marijuana smokers are the most mellow group of people you will ever run across. Probably standing in line at Circle K buying a bag of Combos and some Reeses. A lot of time and money is wasted on hunting them down and prosecuting them and putting them in jail. They need to stop doing that. Make it legal. Tax it. Use the revenue to hunt down and abolish real drugs. I have lots and lots and lots of family in Nevada. Legal Prostitution works fine out there. The brothels are clean and well kept. The hookers are clean and checked every 6 months. It was even on HBO.

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Zenieth

Jan-11-13 2:09 PM

We are a city under siege and the trash includes some of our own dedicated, loyal, leaders ......... It's obvious priority is "padding the pocket" before anything else or something would have been done by now. You see, you have to enforce somethings with law just not the most major thing ........

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GlendaG

Jan-11-13 1:55 PM

If what is happening in this city is what you call capable we are in trouble. I have read more crap about these spas then anything. We spend a million $s on shutting down a bunch of old ladies when a million $s could of done a lot for the drug and crime we have. If this city was run bt competent people that money they would of used to get rid of the trash running amuck throughout our city. That money could of been used to bring on more police officers but hey its all about priorities and what was going on in those building was high on the states list I guess above the safety of the community

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